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∂02-FEB-75  1452		ESS,JMC
 I purged them myself.
␈ CC: REG

∂02-FEB-75  0359		ESS,JMC
 1. It seems to me that it is quite easy to get proofs into the form
 I want.  Namely, if you always write each step onto the backup.tmp
 file as it is produced, then the backup.tmp file will have what I
 want.  You can put a character in front of each proof step that will
 cause it to be ignored when a backup.tmp file is read back in.
 
 2. summerize consists in draining the antifreeze from a car and putting
 a heavier grade of oil in.  You want "summarize".
 
 3. One should be able to SHOW part of a formula to see if one has got
 the part selection right, e.g. SHOW :7#1#2.
 
 4. If backup.tmp has all your erroneous steps so that when you fetch it
 back you get errors and FOL stops.  Is there a way to continue skipping
 the bad step?
 If so, is it in the manual.
 
 5. Consider a command HIDE with a step range as an argument.  Its effect
 is to label the steps as done with.  The only effect is that a simple
 SHOW command shows only the unhidden steps.  This makes it easier to
 see what is available and intended for further use.  A FULL SHOW would
 show hidden steps also. - Not a very high priority yet.
␈ CC: RWW

∂01-FEB-75  2148		ESS,JMC
 What are you currently doing for us?
␈ CC: jj

∂01-FEB-75  2147		ESS,JMC
 I see that Schukin hasn't logged in since 13 Jan.  What is he doing?
␈ CC: tob

∂01-FEB-75  2139		ESS,JMC
 This microfiche reader gets very hot and glares in my eyes, so we should
 definitely look at the Kodak readers.
␈ CC: paw

∂01-FEB-75  1959		ESS,JMC
 What are the chances of getting UNIFY working in time to produce a proof by
 Tuesday, or should I prove around it?
␈ CC: rww

∂01-FEB-75  0451		ESS,JMC
 Now UNIFY doesn't seem to work properly in either FOL or CFOL, but the
 error messages are different.  CFOL's UNIFY always fails for lack of
 UPRECHECK, but FOL succeeds in converting ¬∀N1 K.¬Q(K,N1) to ∃N1 K.Q(K,N1),
 but fails in converting ¬∀N1 K.¬(Q(K,N1)∧((N1=0∧K=(M*0))∨(¬(N1=0)∧Q(K+M,PRED N1))))
 to ∃N1 K.(Q(K,N1)∧((N1=0∧K=(M*0))∨(¬(N1=0)∧Q(K+M,PRED N1)))).
␈ CC: RWW

∂01-FEB-75  0413		ESS,JMC
 We will do some thinking about sharpening the objectives, but I interpret
 what you said as promising a more detailed reaction from you before we
 try to put it in writing.  I am scheduled to be on sabbatical in Japan
 between March 25 and June 30, so I hope we can get it all settled by then.
 Please keep both Les and me informed, however you do it, because we keep
 somewhat asynchronous hours and sometimes one will be able to react
 faster than the other.  Otherwise, the carbons of ARPAnet messages are
 just as legible as the originals.
␈ CC: licklider%ISIA

∂31-JAN-75  1250		ESS,JMC
 Lick:
 	We are about to lay off Jim Hieronymus, because our attempts to
 get support for vision in coal mining have come to nothing.  Cordell tells
 me that the speech committee considers that all effort must go into
 short term demos in order to justify a new five year plan and that no
 support for basic work in acoustic phonetic recognition is available
 until the start of the new period.  This seems short-sighted, but I
 can understand how the speech committee got itself into this position.
 I have heard that indirectly that you and others have a good opinion
 of Hieronymus, but I don't know it for a fact.  We could support him
 for a while and add him to our proposal, but I cannot independently
 evaluate how his work compares with other speech work.  If you have
 an opinion let me know.
␈ CC: licklider%ISIA

∂31-JAN-75  0000		ESS,JMC
 Letter to zohar
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂30-JAN-75  1710		ESS,JMC AT TTY36   1710
 Can you come by for a minute?
␈ CC: tw

∂30-JAN-75  0007		ESS,JMC
 Got bit by that bug again in trying to prove ∀N.0+N=N.
␈ CC: RWW

∂29-JAN-75  2328		ESS,JMC
 I was that very JMC - John McCarthy.
␈ CC: klh%AI

∂29-JAN-75  2327		ESS,JMC
 I was that very JMC - John McCarthy.
␈ CC: klh

∂29-JAN-75  2321		ESS,JMC
 INTFOL.DMP[258,JMC] is a FOL core image with 6 steps of a proof based on
 INTEGE.AX[258,JMC].  An attempt to finish the proof by "∀I 6 M N;" results
 in a complaint "attempt to generalize on a variable appearing free in
 an assumption or axiom.  Of course, M and N are free in step 1, but step
 1 has been removed as an assumption by the ⊃I.  So why can't I generalize.?
␈ CC: RWW

∂29-JAN-75  2229		ESS,JMC
 Sorry to have missed the meeting on AI and data bases.  I had a meeting
 in New York early in the week, and I got confused as to the days of this
 meeting and now my class at 11am tomorrow cannot be called off.
 I would like to see the proceedings if any, and some of the ideas I
 have been slowly pursuing on data description may be relevant.
␈ CC: FIELDS%ISIA

∂29-JAN-75  1421		ESS,JMC
 My secretary remembers it as a big yellow thing, but we can't find it, so
 please send another.  It is my custom, however, not to answer questions
 in which no choice expresses my opinion.
␈ CC: walker%SRI-AI

∂29-JAN-75  0354		ESS,JMC
 Well, I have to turn it off to sleep.  Hope it comes on again.
␈ CC: TAG

∂29-JAN-75  0342		ESS,JMC
 The fan in the Imlac is making a truly awful noise, but I am reluctant to turn
 the Imlac off since it doesn't like that.  Should I do so?
␈ CC: TAG

∂29-JAN-75  0153		ESS,JMC
 Thanks.
␈ CC: tag

∂29-JAN-75  0058		ESS,JMC
 I want to subscribe to
 Encounter
 Encounter Ltd.
 59 St. Martin's Lane
 London WC2N4JS
 I will give you a check for $15.50 and they should send it to my home.
␈ CC: paw

∂29-JAN-75  0051		ESS,JMC
 Please mail a copy of sheldo.ns[let,jmc] to Margaret Young, 2505 Greer Rd.,Palo alto.
␈ CC: paw

∂29-JAN-75  0039		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate bremer.le1 which is to Prof. Hans Bremermann,math.dept. UCB.
␈ CC: paw

∂29-JAN-75  0027		ESS,JMC
 Please put car.ess[ess,jmc] in a nice font, poxify it, and send
 a copy to Robert S. Foote, Port  Authority of New York and New Jersey,
 suite 5614, One World Trade Center, New York N.Y. 10048.
␈ CC: paw

∂29-JAN-75  0026		ESS,JMC
 Janet Kreiling and Bob Caspe say hello.
␈ CC: bo

∂29-JAN-75  0023		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate Norbye.le1[let,jmc].
␈ CC: paw

∂29-JAN-75  0007		ESS,JMC
 Erik:
 	It was I who told you that.  I don't know that there is any general
 principle, but I have two instances: Zohar and a Stanford Israeli geophysicist
 name Amos Nur.  In Zohar's case, he was invited by Ershov without consulting
 any higher authority, either because Ershov forgot that Manna is an Israeli
 (I am sure I had so referred to him in a letter when I first became interested
 in Manna's work), or because he didn't know that it would offer difficulty,
 or because he didn't want to do the system's nasty work for it.  After the
 difficulty became apparent, he and others at Akademgorodok made some effort
 to get Manna a visa, and spoke hopefully up to the last minute, but maybe
 that was partially to avoid confronting other participants with a clear
 choice.
 	In my opinion, one should refrain from holding international
 meetings in the Soviet Union that are nominally Soviet meetings.  If
 the meeting is almost all Soviet, they can do as they choose, but if
 the meeting is, say, half Soviet so that a considerable amount of the
 communication is between non-Soviet people, then one shouldn't go unless
 the meeting is formally international or there is some other guarantee
 that Israeli's can come.  I suppose that if the issue was moot, because
 there were no invitable Israelis, this would be a borderline case, and
 one's decision might depend on how much effort one felt like investing
 in trying to make the Russians behave better.
␈ CC: erik%AI

∂26-JAN-75  1853		ESS,JMC
 See horse.msg[1,elf]
␈ CC: elf

∂26-JAN-75  1727		ESS,JMC
 That was suzuki.rec
␈ CC: paw

∂26-JAN-75  1526		ESS,JMC
 susuki.rec[let,jmc] should go to Joseph Traub at CMU, Jack Schwartz and
 Courant Institute, New York Univ., Mike Dertouzos at Project MAC (there
 should be a P.S. in the note to Dertouzos asking him to forward the
 note if he is not the right person).  Suzuki will give you a resume to
 include, and please send it right away without waiting for my signature.
␈ CC: paw

∂26-JAN-75  0128		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate hobbs.le1.
␈ CC: paw

∂25-JAN-75  0216		ESS,JMC
 I think I would like to talk in the next ai circle meeting late in feb.
␈ CC: tw

∂25-JAN-75  0024		ESS,JMC
 The rest of previous message is "Friday except for wednesday evening.
 The idea is for you to try to define a complete set of chessboard and
 chess position predicates together with the axioms relating them.  This
 will help both the search for chess patterns and FOL proofs of chess
 assertions.  These two tasks have further parallels.
␈ CC: dew

∂25-JAN-75  0023		ESS,JMC
 I have an idea for you, but I shall be away from Sunday through
␈ CC: dew

∂25-JAN-75  0002		ESS,JMC
 Include me on next organized blood trip.
␈ CC: bpm

∂24-JAN-75  1439		ESS,JMC
 I need to talk to you about Morales.
␈ CC: dcl

∂24-JAN-75  0002		ESS,JMC
 Don't change POX so that present files don't work without Ralph's permission.
␈ CC: rem

∂23-JAN-75  1343		ESS,JMC
 The first meeting of the 3850 club was held yesterday.  Xerox-parc
 seems to have decided that they want nothing to do with IBM and
 all its works, and, besides, they have no current problem that this
 solves.  The other six (su-ai,sri-ai,sumex,imsss (Pat Suppes), the
 academic computation center of Stanford, and presumably ARPA are
 interested enough so that we have placed an order with IBM to get on
 the queue, which is already 22 months long.  Of course, won't be
 any financial commitment until a few months of delivery so there is
 plenty of time to see if the demand is effective.  The biggest question
 is whether there is real demand backed by money - the rental being
 about $22K per month, and the biggest open technical question at the
 moment is what can be done about high speed communication.  We may
 propose to you a large files project that will involve organizing
 all unclassified ARPA reports (or even encrypted classified reports)
 and whatever other useful material can be found in computer accessible
 form.  We are also looking into the possibility of piggybacking on
 one of IBM'a other 3850 customers in this area.
␈ CC: fields%ISIA

∂23-JAN-75  1342		ESS,JMC
 ∂23-JAN-75  1251		network site BBN
  Date: 23 JAN 1975 1552-EST
  From: FIELDS at BBN-TENEX
  Subject: STANFORD PROPOSAL
  To:   JMC at SU-AI
  cc:   LICKLIDER
  
  JOHN,
  	I READ YOUR PROPOSAL. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN 
  TWO ITEMS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET A COPY OF
  LOW'S THESIS (AIM 242) BY US MAIL? IT WOULD BE TOO
  LONG TO PRINT ON MY TERMINAL. ALSO, ON PAGE 20
  YOU INDICATE THAT IN JANUARY, 9175 WINOGRAD SHOULD
  HAVE A COPY OF INITIAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR A KNOWLEDGE
  REPRESENTATION LANGUAGE. COULD I SEE A COPY OF THAT
  AS WELL? THANKS FOR BOTHIN  ADVANCE.
  
  	A WORD OF FRIENDLY ADVICE.  ON PAGE 41 YOU
  INDICATE THE NEED FOR A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TENEX
  TIME AND ARPANET ACCESS. BOTH COST REAL DOLLARS
  AND I SUGGEST THAT IN YOUR NEGOCIATIONS WITH
  LICK THESE ITEMS ARE NOT OVERLOOKED. THE TENEX
  TIME WILL POSE THE GREATEST PROBLEM. ALTHOUGH
  NEW TENEXES ARE EXPECTED, THE DEMAND WILL EXCEED
  THE SUPPLY, AND LICK WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON
  ALLOCATION SO AS NOT TO GIVE AWAY MORE THAN 100%
  OF TENEX AVAILABLE.  THIS WAS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT
  A POTENTIAL PROBLEM TO ASSIST YOU.
  
  BEST
  CRAIG
  
  P.S. HOW ARE THINGS IN THE 3850 CLUB?
  -------
 
␈ CC: les

∂23-JAN-75  1339		ESS,JMC
 There is a possibility that we will be able to support you, but we
 will have to discuss it.  I can't meet at the end of next week, because
 I will be out of town almost all week, but the following week or even
 the weekend are possible for me.
␈ CC: ajt

∂22-JAN-75  1440		ESS,JMC
 Balint Domolki, who has been visiting us for a few months from Hungary,
 would like to visit M.I.T., including the AI Lab and Project MAC especially
 Jack Dennis on his way back to Hungary - for about two non consecutive days.
 He has been actually useful here, because he has caught on to FOL and
 our work in mathematical theory of computation very quickly.  He is called
 DBX here, and he will send you a message suggesting when he might come
 and asking if that is ok.  In AI Lab, he will want to talk to the ACTOR
 people mainly.
␈ CC: phw%AI

∂22-JAN-75  1437		ESS,JMC
 Do you know if the Honeywell 6000 series is the same as the GE645 and
 if so what is the LISP situation on this machine?  Balint Domolki,
 a visitor from Hungary here, who is called DBX would like to know.
␈ CC: cdr

∂22-JAN-75  1355		ESS,JMC
 call coates
 
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂22-JAN-75  0140		ESS,JMC
 Note to Dr. David G. Hays, Twin Willows, Wanakah, New York 14075
 
 Dear David:
 
 	I have just received an issue of the \F1American Journal
 of Computational Linguistics\F0, and I would like to congratulate you
 on its form.  Now I really have to get a couple of microfiche readers -
 one for my office and one for home.  By the way, are you enthusiastic
 about any particular reader?
 
 			Best Regards,
␈ CC: paw

∂22-JAN-75  0107		ESS,JMC
 When can you fix my imlac?  The run light won't go on.
␈ CC: tag

∂21-JAN-75  1427		ESS,JMC
 Unfortunately, the man I was counting on to work on the car finding
 problem finds it scientifically uncongenial.  I have some other ideas,
 and I'll let you know if any of them pan out.
␈ CC: carlstrom%ISIA

∂21-JAN-75  1405		ESS,JMC
 Harold: Please don't log in during the day on datadiscs.  This is a
 scarce resource.
␈ CC: ber;les

∂20-JAN-75  1554		ESS,JMC
 Letter to Zohar.
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂20-JAN-75  0207		ESS,JMC
 paper on cars
 
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂20-JAN-75  0019		ESS,JMC
 analog.le1
 
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂20-JAN-75  0017		ESS,JMC
 call up about ticket
 
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂19-JAN-75  1354		ESS,JMC
 call hutchinson
 
␈ CC: :TASK.

∂19-JAN-75  1351		ESS,JMC
 bah
␈ CC: :FOO.

∂19-JAN-75  0330		ESS,JMC
 Is it possible to mail to file that doesn't have an extension?
␈ CC: bh

∂19-JAN-75  0328		ESS,JMC
 
 SABBATICAL
␈ CC: :TASK

∂19-JAN-75  0326		ESS,JMC
 SABBATICAL
␈ CC: :TASK

∂18-JAN-75  2013		ESS,JMC
 Thanks for the ccpy of you letter to Bethe.  A letter dissenting
 is on its way via campus mail, but it is on file as lederb.le1[let,jmc],
 and a letter to Bethe - previously started - is bethe.le1[let,jmc].
␈ CC: lederberg%ISIA

∂18-JAN-75  1844		ESS,JMC
 I have just been badly bitten by a bug in E.  I wanted to go up several lines
 so I typed ↑ several times in quick succession.  This got me into a state
 where I was in IOWQ, but E was completely unresponsive to commands.  I tried
 ↑C and reenter, but was told there was no reenter address - a defect I
 suppose.  Then I tried CONT after which E was responsive so naturally I
 tried double bucky dot.  This resulted in "FATAL ERROR -- BUG IN WRITE CODE
 HALT AT USER 406024.  I then tried to edit the file and was tol that the
 "DIRECTORY INVALID OR UNDESIRED.  KEEP OLD ONE AS PART OF TEXT?"  I told
 it "n" and it showed me the file most of which was gone, ALAS.
␈ CC: als

∂18-JAN-75  0018		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate bethe.le1.
␈ CC: paw

∂17-JAN-75  2242		ESS,JMC AT TTY15   2242
 Is it reasonable to hopeto go to press on Monday?
␈ CC: AJT

∂17-JAN-75  1222		ESS,JMC
 A final test.
␈ CC: MARKOWITZ%MIT-MULTICS

∂17-JAN-75  1156		ESS,JMC
 To Peter Weiner's group.
 Peter:
 	This concerns your inquiry to Col. Russell.  I don't know him, but
 I think we will get a better result if you tell him what the ARPA
 community would like in the way of network access and the possibility of
 keeping some non-ARPA financed installations on the net.  If he has to
 make it all up out of his head, the result may be unsatisfactory, aad
 you may have to work much harder to change it than if you say what the
 community needs in the first place.
 
 	Second point:  I am currently trying to organize a local co-op
 to rent and operate an IBM 3850 mass storage: 7 users at about $3500
 per month each would get 5 billion bytes.  The preliminary mode of
 operation would be FTP if the net were used or more likely FTP like
 for Bay Area users, i.e. users would transfer whole files to and from
 the facility.  Additional ARPAnet interest is solicited.  Storage cost
 between $.75 and $1.00 per million characters per month which would go
 down to $.35 if the demand grew to allow a maximum system.
␈ CC: Corby%MIT-MULTICS;Markowitz%MIT-MULTICS

∂17-JAN-75  1152		ESS,JMC
 This is just a test.
␈ CC: Markowitz%MIT-MULTICS

∂17-JAN-75  1151		ESS,JMC
 Peter:
 	This concerns your inquiry to Col. Russell.  I don't know him, but
 I think we will get a better result if you tell him what the ARPA
 community would like in the way of network access and the possibility of
 keeping some non-ARPA financed installations on the net.  If he has to
 make it all up out of his head, the result may be unsatisfactory, aad
 you may have to work much harder to change it than if you say what the
 community needs in the first place.
 
 	Second point:  I am currently trying to organize a local co-op
 to rent and operate an IBM 3850 mass storage: 7 users at about $3500
 per month each would get 5 billion bytes.  The preliminary mode of
 operation would be FTP if the net were used or more likely FTP like
 for Bay Area users, i.e. users would transfer whole files to and from
 the facility.  Additional ARPAnet interest is solicited.  Storage cost
 between $.75 and $1.00 per million characters per month which would go
 down to $.35 if the demand grew to allow a maximum system.
␈ CC: pirtle%I4-TENEX

∂17-JAN-75  1131		ESS,JMC
 Peter:
 	This concerns your inquiry to Col. Russell.  I don't know him, but
 I think we will get a better result if you tell him what the ARPA
 community would like in the way of network access and the possibility of
 keeping some non-ARPA financed installations on the net.  If he has to
 make it all up out of his head, the result may be unsatisfactory, aad
 you may have to work much harder to change it than if you say what the
 community needs in the first place.
 
 	Second point:  I am currently trying to organize a local co-op
 to rent and operate an IBM 3850 mass storage: 7 users at about $3500
 per month each would get 5 billion bytes.  The preliminary mode of
 operation would be FTP if the net were used or more likely FTP like
 for Bay Area users, i.e. users would transfer whole files to and from
 the facility.  Additional ARPAnet interest is solicited.  Storage cost
 between $.75 and $1.00 per million characters per month which would go
 down to $.35 if the demand grew to allow a maximum system.
␈ CC: @WEINER.GRP:corby%MIT-MULTICS,markowitz%MIT-MULTICS,pritle%I4-TENEX,stockham%UTAH,woods%BBN,,weiner%RAND-RCC

∂16-JAN-75  1816		ESS,JMC
 please decorate oxford.le1[let,jmc]
␈ CC: paw

∂16-JAN-75  1718		ESS,JMC
 Craig:
 	I don't recall McClellan.  There was some guy I thought was from
 Washington who discussed it with me, but, as I recollect, it was his move
 when we stopped talking.  The A.P. wire itself costs us $15.00 per month
 and last year A.P. paid for the salary of the guy who worked on it, but
 this year ARPA has that honor.  We are glad to have other ARPAnet use and
 can easily set it up for occasional use, but A.P. considers that we can
 use it only for experimental purposes, and other users would have to
 negotiate with them.  If you think this is vague, you are right.  If an
 application looks to me as though it would require negotiation with A.P.
 and the New York Times news service, I will be glad to help get things
 started.  The best thing would be for McClellan to send me a note saying
 what he wants to do.
 
 	There are now seven potential users of the 3850, and the cost of
 an essentially minimal system seems to be about $22K per month.  Before
 the first meeting of the potential subscribers, I would like any information
 you have about FTP2 and about the possibilities for higher speed network
 transmission, because it looks like present network speeds or even the
 mythical 50K bits per second won't do.
␈ CC: fields%ISIA

∂15-JAN-75  1728		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate andrei.le4[let,jmc]
␈ CC: paw

∂15-JAN-75  0305		ESS,JMC
 don't forget mccloskey
␈ CC: jmc

∂15-JAN-75  0304		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate andrei.le4[let,jmc].
␈ CC: paw

∂15-JAN-75  0220		ESS,JMC
 SEND OFF SUM.CAR[CUR,JMC]
␈ CC: JMC

∂15-JAN-75  0113		ESS,JMC
 I would like someone, and it probably should be you, to write a proposal
 to DECUS that DECUS adopt an ARPANET like message and FTP protocol
 using the telephone system.  It would be desirable that the protocol
 be as compatible with ARPAnet as possible with any reductions necessary
 for practicality.  It would require a telephone dialer for output and
 only suitable external telephone numbers for input.  It should contain
 as few eccentricities of PDP-10 as possible so that DECUS could later
 propose it to other user groups.
 Maybe Bell Labs would be interested for the thing itself and because it
 might be could for AT&T, and I know you are a strong believer in the
 proposition that what is good for AT&T is good for the country.
␈ CC: BH

∂15-JAN-75  0102		ESS,JMC
 Thanks for your comments on my lecture.  I haven't now anything
 concrete to say about your work, but I would be glad to listen
 to you for an hour and then comment.  How about Friday afternoon?
 
 1. The choices that I have made so far in abstract syntax do not
 commit me to use LISP data structures, and I don't intend to
 confine myself to them.  I have not thought much about abstract
 data structures, and I consider them part of the semantics.  I
 certainly agree that they are desirable.
 
 2. mkebinop is a reasonable way to do it, but since in applications
 I have considered so far, including all those put on the board, it
 would lengthen the formualas although it would reduce the number
 of axioms.
 
 3. I don't see the point of the suggestion concerning the definition
 of value(e,β).  We can't do the semantics without introducing +
 in the metalanguage so in order to finish the definition I would
 still have to treat the case of a sum of numerals.
 4. In the sense that I want to use, x is not inevitable in that
 expression.  It is need not be for the purpose of reducing
 expressions to strong canonical form.  Of course, it would reduce
 that expression to x.  However, if we want the fact that 0=0 is
 true to be taken into account, where do we draw the line  in knowing
 at "syntax time" that an expression will always give the same
 truth value.  If we want the definition of inevitability to take
 into account all constant expressions, we could define it that way,
 but then the concept of inevitable variable would be non-effective,
 because in general it is undecideable whether an expression is
 constant.
 
 Thanks again for the comments, and if you feel like commenting
 on future lectures, please do so, and I'll try to respond.  I
 will mention the mkebinop idea which has come up before.
␈ CC: dbx

∂14-JAN-75  0742		ESS,JMC
 	An improved protocol would certainly help, because most
 traners are protocol limited today, and I agree that a separate
 fast protocol is appropriate.  However, for many applications the
 50 kbaud is too slow, even if it could be attained.
␈ CC: fields%ISIA

∂13-JAN-75  1502		ESS,JMC
 Craig:
 	As you know, I turned down your suggestion of trying to organize
 a 3850 co-op.  Well, I have thought better of it, and have now expressions
 of interest from the Lederberg and Suppes PDP-10s at Stanford and from
 Bert Raphael at SRI-AI.  The idea would be to rent a minimal 3850 and
 attach it to our 3330 and PDP-10.  Faster transmission than the present
 ARPAnet would probably be required for many of the contemplated applications.
 and this might limit the main usefulness to nearby sites.  However, if the
 ARPAnet were to improve its EFFECTIVE speed of file transfer, then ... .
 I will also ask PARC when they return my call.  When we have more information
 I will send you another message unless the whole thing falls flat.  We wouldn't
 get delivery until 1976 no matter how fast we act, but after that it could
 be up almost immediately.  It occurs to me that ARPA might want a share for
 its mini-users apart from the shares that the participating ARPA projects
 would buy out of their contracts.  I don't know how much a share would cost -
 perhaps $50K-$75K per year but will know soon.  Nothing fancy is contemplated.
 Files could be FTPed, and if there were five or seven users, a share would be
 seven or five BILLION bytes.
 
 	I will be glad to attend the RAND meeting.
␈ CC: fields%ISIA

∂13-JAN-75  1017		ESS,JMC
 I now have an idea of how to put vision into FOL in the spirit of FOL.
 It involves being able to verify that a scene satisfies a visual pattern,
 as distinct from finding the pattern in the scene.  It is therefore
 epistemological rather than heuristic as is FOL in general.  I want to
 peddle this idea to you and to Tom Binford.
␈ CC: ajt

∂13-JAN-75  0847		ESS,JMC
 I need to circularize dept saying I propose to appoint Manna.
␈ CC: paw

∂11-JAN-75  1805		ESS,JMC
 The letter is to Professor Alphonse Juilland.
␈ CC: paw

∂11-JAN-75  1804		ESS,JMC
 That's juilla.le1[let,jmc].
␈ CC: paw

∂11-JAN-75  1804		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate juillan.le1 as a letter.  It started as a memo.
␈ CC: paw

∂10-JAN-75  1956		ESS,JMC
 Let me show you my calculations.
␈ CC: mg

∂10-JAN-75  1949		ESS,JMC
 finish off fordha.le4
␈ CC: jmc

∂09-JAN-75  2301		ESS,JMC
 The reason there is no NILSON at SRI-AI is that the person you want is NILSSON.
␈ CC: PHW%AI

∂06-JAN-75  2312		ESS,JMC
 read task and calend
␈ CC: jmc

∂06-JAN-75  2044		ESS,JMC
 Les did a monumental job of getting out that proposal.  There are somm
 rough spots, and there probably will be some afterthoughts, but soon.
␈ CC: licklider%ISIA

∂06-JAN-75  2040		ESS,JMC
 Yes, I will be glad to be a member for whatever I can do before March 25 or
 after June 30; between those dates I will be in Japan.  I have no problem
 with non-disclosure.  The major issure that occurs to me is how to get a
 good successor to the PDP-10.  I suggest that we have a telephone conference
 as soon as you have a draft agenda.  Also please send a list of the network
 addresses of the participants to all.
␈ CC: weiner%RAND-RCC

∂06-JAN-75  1124		ESS,JMC
 The preceeding was to Winston, copy to you,because Minsker asksyou to.
␈ CC: raphael%SRI-AI

∂06-JAN-75  1108		ESS,JMC
 	As you have probably heard by now, Jack Minker is trying to organize
 a panel on cybernetics and AI at 4IJCAI involving (Benjamin ?) Lerner,
 a Soviet Jewish cyberneticist who has been unsuccessfully trying to
 emigrate for several years.  As he will no doubt cheerfully tell you,
 Minker's motives are political.  I have agreed to be on the panel if it
 is held.  In my opinion, you should take special care to get the
 scientific appropriateness of the panel evaluated objectively.  If Minker
 succeeds in organizing a scientifically appropriate panel, it should be
 included in the program, if not, not.  My agreement to participate represents
 more of a "put up" to Minker than a desire to discuss cybernetics and AI,
 since I have no clear idea of what Soviets like Lerner mean by it.  Therefore,
 I consider myself of not much help in evaluating Minker's proposed panel.
 $
␈ CC: phw%AI;raphael%SRI-AI

∂05-JAN-75  2326		ESS,JMC
 A narrow escape from having to type it in again.
␈ CC: wd

∂05-JAN-75  2322		ESS,JMC
 What we are contemplating is not clear even to us, although it is more like
 supplementing  and eventually replacing the Datadiscs by IC memory.
␈ CC: tk%AI

∂04-JAN-75  1603		ESS,JMC
 I looked over your report to the U.N., and I am quite impressed with
 what you have accomplished.  It would be nice if you could write some
 kind of research report or mini-paper before you leave.  In any case,
 if they ask me, I will say that you have been about the most useful
 of our short term foreign visitors.  If you could arrange to stay a bit
 longer, we would be glad to have you.
␈ CC: dbx

∂04-JAN-75  0240		ESS,JMC
 Please decorate peters.le1[let,jmc]
␈ CC: paw

∂03-JAN-75  1809		ESS,JMC
 please decorate femano.le1[let,jmc].
␈ CC: paw

∂03-JAN-75  0406		ESS,JMC AT TTY15   0406
 What if everyone ran finger at once?
␈ CC: bgb;les

∂03-JAN-75  0142		ESS,JMC
 Yes.
␈ CC: les

∂02-JAN-75  2053		ESS,JMC
 read task
␈ CC: jmc

∂02-JAN-75  2014		ESS,JMC
 The problems you raise are mostly genuine, but they don't strike me
 as the most immediate problems at this time.
␈ CC: wd

∂02-JAN-75  2008		ESS,JMC
 Bill Pitts and Stan Kugell are the other people who are interested.  Pitts
 has quite a few good ideas.  I would like someone to try to get some publicity,
 e.g. Peninsula Electronic News and Grid.
 
 	Pitts thinks it can be done for less than $75.
 	More after I reread your opus.  I was interrupted and forgot what
 you said.
 	PUB,JMC is entirely devoted to this project.
␈ CC: wd

∂02-JAN-75  2002		ESS,JMC
 Well, I have nothing yet.  There will be a handout, but I haven't started
 on it, because I have been tied up with the ARPA proposal.  I shall have
 to start out the class on Tuesday with old material.  I will have to
 get someone else to take the class on Thursday, maybe Bill Glassmire
 talking on FOL, because I have to be in Rochest?r, N.Y.  Please get a copy
 of the new FOL manual as soon as you can.  I may want to get some of
 my old papers reprinted, but I haven't decided that yet.
 
 Perhaps you could make a list of all the CS206 material we have on files.
 I suppose it is all in PUB form by now; it can make new chapters when I
 get to writing some transitional stuff.
 
 Oh, by the way, we need a writeup of the LISP program for producing
 blackboard LISP for PUB.
␈ CC: nxl

∂02-JAN-75  1954		ESS,JMC
 Yes, I would like to see the PLASMA manual.  I need to see some non-trivial
 examples in order to convince myself there is something there even though
 the idea that ACTORs sending each other messages would make a powerful
 computing system seems plausible to me.
␈ CC: tw

∂02-JAN-75  0347		ESS,JMC
 The letter aiorg.pln[cur,jmc] should be sent to Alistair Holden with a note
 saying that it is in response to his inquiry.
 
␈ CC: paw
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